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Hi Larry, The reference is from page 32 of the book - I think I've got the first edition - sorry if I've posted this in the wrong spot. I am seeking advice on heredoc best practices. Here's an example that I've been experimenting with: The scenario is a program to edit the information about an item whose details have been retrieved from a database via a standard MySQL select. The data get loaded into an HTML form with the variables from the database interpolated into the form. There appear to be two approaches: 1) to have most of the form HTML with the database data added via <?php echo $var; ?> with any number of these echos. Or 2) heredoc echo the whole form thus avoiding the need to have all the PHP insertions. I have tried both approaches and they both work fine. The second approach looks 'cleaner' to me, but I'm wondering if it's "bad coding form"? Thanks in anticipation for your thoughts or any other forum member's thoughts. Cheers. P.S., the updated from data get processed via PHP Redux.