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Hi Larry, to determine if any records are returned using find() and findAll(), I see that when nothing is returned using find(), that a NULL is returned. When nothing is found using findAll that an empty array is returned. Is this the best way to determine if records are returned?: $var=SomeModelClass::model()->find($condition, $params); if ($var !== null) // Check if a single record is returned. $var=SomeModelClass::model()->findAll($condition, $params); if (!empty($var)) // Check for returned records Larry Z.