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Hi Larry, great book, finding it really clear and useful. Thought I'd just ask about the style of coding you've used to display the products in the list_products.html file. You include the header div for that page within the while loop, only echoing it on the first iteration. It uses the g_description and g_image columns from the first row. My problem is that, g_description and g_image are still in every other row of the mysql result. They are identical to those in the first row and are never used. I can't help but feel it's a shame to have called for them in the first place. Have you done it this way to minimize calls to the database? The way I might be tempted to write this page, is to get the category details in a separate database call, then I could take the header completely out of the while loop, and there wouldn't be a need for the if (!$header){ condition. Hope that makes sense to you. Just wondering what your thoughts on this were? Thanks for reading!